@Stormm interesting. thanks. i think i saw some of your examples when i dabbled in martial arts. im guessing your point is be the unexpected. as for anything being a weapon... i heard a story which ends up being a guy defending himself with a shopping cart. it happened to be the closest thing he had. that story made a good point. i guess even a blade of grass can be a weapon in desperation. im still different in a open when i think about tactics. like im ok with fighting in the dark. also i would use a small tree myself if i had to. hehe