@Nate YPX Grey thanks. I know the irish have it. They love sticks so much that they put it into some sports. i seen irish stick fighting and kung fu cane on youtube. No french things yet. yeah i have a long walking stick since im a little over six foot. So thought it could be used like a double handed sword in a way. thats kali thinking as in making a blade into a stick , but it might work. Who knows. I thought you would have ideas about that. Thanks again.