@Nate YPX Grey hehe. Just stating a friendly point. no one expects mr rogers and i guess he is nice in person to. if he isnt a mk ultra then there was probably still illuminati subliminals in the old kid show. yes i heard of that kind of programming even though monarch itself is still mysterious to me. In my opinion all roads lead to mk ultra as far as programs. last but not least i wonder what would happen if mr rogers and bob ross meet. Hehe.